The Middle East: The world’s playground for the privatization of war
By James M. Dorsey
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The United States had no idea that its employment in the 2000s of
private military companies. like Blackwater in Iraq, would institutionalize and
legitimize mercenaries, one of the world's oldest professions.
Nor did the United States envision it would create a template for
the outsourcing of the state's monopoly on violence that country. Countries
such as Russia, Turkey, China, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates would
adapt often with devastating consequences.
Even so, US President Donald Trump took conceptualizing military
force as a commodity rather than a tool of defense and statecraft to an extreme
in 2019 when he made retaliation for Yemeni Houthis rebel attacks on Saudi oil
installations contingent on the kingdom paying for the service.
Today, one just has to switch on the news to realize that
mercenaries and private military companies live a life of their own and shape
headlines.
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Chaos and mayhem dominate the streets of Haiti after Colombian mercenaries killed the president. Russia's Wagner Group played a key role in the invasion of Ukraine and at one point appeared to revolt against President Vladimir Putin. This is just to name a few recent histories shaping events.
Standing in front of Wagner Group fighters, Yevgeny Prigozhin
chief addresses Russia’s top military brass. location. Credit: AFP - Getty
Images file
My guest, Alessandro Arduino, one of the world's foremost experts and author of a recently published book, ‘Money for Mayhem, Mercenaries, Private Military Companies, Drones, and the Future of War,’ cautions that outsourcing violence opens the door to what he calls ‘private wars.’ Haiti is a prime example.
The irony is that the latest phase in the evolution of mercenaries
and private military entities first emerged in the Middle East, a region racked
by wars and conflict in which states like the United States, Russia, Iran,
Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and Turkey backed armed to the teeth, non-state
actors of different stripes.
These actors range from private military companies to
ideologically driven militias to rebels, who in some cases, like Syria, created
their own commercial mercenary enterprises.
With massive investments across the globe, and particularly in the
Greater Middle East that stretches from the Chinese border into Eastern Africa,
in which Chinese personnel and assets are targets for the likes of Baloch
nationalist and Islamist militants.
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In Pakistan, China has created the world's largest domestic
private security force populated by commercial companies. Increasingly, those
companies are flexing their muscles in the protection of Chinese investments
along the People's Republic's massive Belt and Road initiative.
Research into this latest phase in the history of guns for hire is
in its infancy.
Alessandro Arduino, or simply Alex, is one of its foremost
midwives. Alex, congratulations on your latest book. It's wonderful to have you
on the show.
Alessandro Arduino (00:03:55):
James, thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be here.
James M. Dorsey (00:03:59):
Let's start on a personal note. Private military has been a key
focus of yours over the many years that we have known each other. What
initially sparked your fascination with the evolution of China's private
military industry and then with the industry more globally.
Alessandro Arduino (00:04:19):
Let's say James, that it started with a very tiny research, not
even for a paper, it was an article and at the time China, it was moving on a
first step in protecting the Belt and Road Initiative.
So, I just had one question into my mind. Is China going to have a
Chinese Blackwater company? Meaning is the Chinese state going to localize
private assets all over the world on Chinese private company to protect its
investment?
And the answer, at the beginning, was quite straightforward from
the military industry complex in China and it was ‘no,’ the state is going to
protect the investment. But then I realized that already on the oil and energy
side, several Chinese state-owned enterprises were employing foreign, private
military companies and private security companies to protect their assets and
it slowly percolated to what is now the growth and the rise of the Chinese
private security sector.
James M. Dorsey (00:05:27):
In my mind, this latest phase in the evolution of mercenaries and
private military companies starts with a significant presence in Iraq of
military contractors during the US led invasion in 2003. These contractors were
symbolized by Blackwater, headed by Erik Prince, one of the industry's leading
and most controversial figures. What was the thinking behind the outsourcing of
tasks to contractors and in what way did this create a template for others?
Blackwater founder Erik Prince Credit:
Jeenah Moon/Reuters
Alessandro Arduino (00:06:00):
As you correctly point out, James, the Middle East, it's the area
in which we can trace the evolution of the private military security sector and
especially now how other actors, namely China, Russia, and Turkey, are moving
away from the corporate path that the US traced in the last 20 years. At the
time, it was to protect the ministry of foreign affairs personnel, State
personnel, and security installations and also to augment training and
capabilities of the army. There was a growing market for force and the main
driver was basically related to the assumption that was topical during the
Reagan and the Bush era that the private sector is better than the publc
sector, meaning private military company are more efficient, cost efficient,
effective and produce better result than just the army or in conjunction with
the army. And it was the idea behind the outsourcing and of course for the US
that worked well.
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The US didn't have to go back to draft more able young men to be
part of the conflict and, of cource, it could outsource a lot of service that
are not related to kinetic service.
Let me be more clear. When a modern army goes to war, there is the
necessity for a lot of support in the back line, meaning you need cooks, you
need people for the mail, you need people washing dishes and uniforms and so
on.
So, the private sector was able to provide a third-country
national that were doing this kind of job without involving military personnel.
And, of course, this kind of service evolved even to include kinetic service.
So, at the time of the war in Iraq and after even in Afghanistan,
an important part of this duty were done by contractors. We can see in the
history of US warfare that with the war in the former Yugoslavia, then in Iraq
and in Afghanistan, the ratio of military and contractor increased almost
exponentially.
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In Afghanistan you have 1.5 contractors for each military man deployed there. So, this trend was also highlighted by a crisis, the one that you mentioned before. Blackwater contractors in Baghdad Nisour Square opened fire killing 17 innocent Iraq civilians. And that was a topical moment when the West started to ask if outsourcing the state private monopoly of violence was the right thing to do.
One answer to that crisis was the establishment of the Montreal
Code of Conduct on how to regulate the private military and security sector.
But now again, if we look at the Middle East as a focus, as a topical area, we
see that China and Russia learned from the US / Blackwater lesson developing
their own private security in the case of China, private military / mercenary
and quasi private military or even better armored militia in the case of
Russia.
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So we can see this transformation in the Middle East in which for
example, the Wagner Group that is now basically the flavour of the month in
discussing mercenaries from Ukraine to Africa. It started its first steps in
Syria and then we can see in other areas in the Middle East when there are not
only private military company legally registered and law abiding private
military company, but a rise in group of unaccountable, private military, rogue
private military and even mercenaries.
Unfortunately, nowadays, the gray area in the definition of
private military companies, private security companies and mercenaries is
increasing and it's being exploited by states that use this quite loose
definition to basically being legally and accountable while using mercenary to
do their bidding.
James M. Dorsey (00:10:30):
Alessandro Arduino (00:11:03):
No disrespect, the problem is related to several overlapping
national and international laws. If someone commits a crime in a country, there
is that country law that applies, but when we are talking about PMCs (private
military companies), if they are under code of conduct or regulation of the
military is one case and you have to see if these operate in an area that is
basically without law.
And the second part is related to the fact that also mercenary
organizations are used just for this because plausible deniability is one of
their biggest assets. They are employed by countries that want something
horrific like killing of an innocent civilian. A country that can just use
plausible deniability saying they are independent private operators and they
have nothing to do, even if they're
nationasl from that country as the case of Wagner in multiple times.
But again, if we are looking at the broader sphere of the state
privatization of the monopoly of violence, there are different trends and there
are different needs.
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So, we don't need to put everything in one basket. For example, if
we look at the US model, the Western model, basically the state privatization
of the monopoly of force is being efficient, economical, and especially when
states are not inclined to send their own kids into a war zone. Then, if we
move to other area still staying in the Middle East, to the Gulf for example,
in this area there are very wealthy countries that don't have the necessary
manpower to wage war or to defend themself. So, they use private soldiers,
contracted soldiers.
Then we move to China, as you mentioned it before, the necessity
to protect the Belt and Road Initiative, sending private security to protect
Chinese personnel all over the world.
And finally, you have the Russian hiding military force in plain sight saying that is nothing to do with Russia. I remember when at the United Nation Foreign Affairs Minister (Sergei) Lavrov was asked why they send a military force in Mali and his answer was very straightforward, ‘It's a private matter, a private military company and the Mali government is discussing with this company. Ironically, PMCs are illegal according to the Russian law.
Russian
mercenaries in northern Mali. Credit: French Army/AP
James M. Dorsey (00:13:41):
PMC being private military companies?
Alessandro Arduino (00:13:43):
Correct.
James M. Dorsey (00:13:46):
I mean, sorry to belabour this, but it strikes me that the major
lesson learned then is plausible deniability.
Alessandro Arduino (00:13:58):
Plausible deniability is one of the lessons.
Now it'll be, for example, for Russia more difficult since the demise of (Wagner founder) Yevgeny Prigozhin to claim plausible deniability when Russia just mentioned that all the Wagner force, especially the one positioned in very lucrative areas, mining areas in Africa and the Middle East, are related and directly controlled by the ministry of defense and of state security.
But then the problem is not only plausible deniability when
atrocities are being convicted. How to find the culprit and how to bring them
to justice? This is a huge problem because the law against mercenaries is quite
old. It's a 1949 law that looks at mercenaries as individuals, not as a group,
and basically it was done as a reminiscence of the atrocities committed by mercenaries
during the Africa post-colonial war.s Then there was an update in 1999 in the
crime of recruiting mercenaries.
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But then again, if we look the UN level, there has been more than
a hundred discussions on how to arrest and to find mercenaries. But then it is
very difficult from a legal point of view. Let me explain.
In a nation, in a country that is ravaged by war is very difficult
per se to have some kind of law that make the country police able to arrest
this person. And then just try to go with the police force to arrest someone
that is heavily armored and then can shoot back.
So, one problem is that mercenaries are on the rise. So, one takeaway
from my book, Money for Mayhem, is that basically mercenaries are back and are
here to stay. Mercenaries prosper in preserving mayhem uncertainty and
instability.
So, they don't have any, let's say inclination to change their
pattern. Again, let me be more specific. In areas like the Middle East that are
rich of oil and gas, in other areas in Africa that are rich in diamond, copper,
and gold, mercenaries are paid to protect local government and related
entities. But if there is stability, if there is peace, they are out of the
job.
So, it is in their own interest as it happened for thousand years
for all mercenary groups to keep preserving uncertainty and instability.
James M. Dorsey (00:16:45):
Let's stick for a moment with Wagner because Wagner really was
after the Americans in Iraq, the next major mercenary entity to appear on the
international stage. And the question is, is there a comparison with Blackwater
as well as other private military companies in Iraq, and the emergence of the Wagner
Group in Syria in 2015 when Russian forces came to the aid of embattled present
Bashar al-Assad during the Civil War?
Alessandro Arduino (00:17:23):
In this respect, first and foremost, American private military
company are registered entities, registered companies, mostly in the United
States, and they abide by certification and some certain code of conduct.
So, if something bad happens, there is accountability and the
responsibility then definitely if we are looking at the massacre in Nisour Square,
it took more than seven years to put the culprits in jail, but it happened.
This is a scare in Baghdad where the 17 people were killed. Yes,
correct. It happened. They were on trial, it was not an easy trial, it was very
difficult to prove manslaughter, but at the end they ended up in prison. They
didn't last long in prison, I have to say, because they were pardoned by at the
time president who was Donald Trump.
But without saying that Blackwater was rebranded into Frontier
Services Groups and now it's part of a bigger conglomerate of PMCs and security
providers that is the Consella Group.
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Then if we move in what Russia learned out of the Blackwater
experience and we can see in Syria the first step of what became the Wagner
playbook, meaning when Russia needed to expand its economical influence and
security interestsis, doing it below the radar sending military trainer. Most
of these military trainers at the time in Syria were part of the Slavonic Corps
that was the name before the Wagner group and part of the people from the
Slavonic corps moved out of the group and founded with the support of a
businessman, criminal businessman. Mr. Prigozhin founded Wagner Group. One of
the leading figures moving from the Slavonic Corps to Wagner Group is Dmitry
Utkin that he perished in a plane accident that Mr. Prigozhin was flying to St.
Petersburg.
Having said that, what is the Wagner playbook? Basically small
number a hundred, 150, 200 trainers arriving in country.
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That was the case in Syria. Everybody knew that they are Russian.
Most of the time, they moved with
Russian military planes and Russian military logistics, but they claim to be a
private military company, so nothing to do with the Russian state after they
take place.
They also are supported by the Internet Research Agency who is St.
Petersburg registered. A troll factory that use media propaganda,
misinformation, and disinformation to promote the Russian view that Russian PMCs
and Russian contractors are a force for good.
At the same time, they increase their local operations and when
the operations are stabilized, meaning control of oil, assets, land, then
finally the Russian army can jump in and claim the day. It started in Syria, it
moved the same modus operandi, the same playbook to Libya. But Libya was a
particular case because, like the Middle Ages, you have mercenary against
mercenary from one side to the other of the conflict.
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But where the Wagner playbook worked extremely well for Mother
Russia is in Africa. In Sub-Saharan Africa, same playbook as played in Syria,
military trainers.
Let me give you the example of Central Africa Republic. The president was besieged by rebels. At the time the French-led operation counterterrorism was not showing result. The president was feeling under siege by several insurgent forces in the country and he basically was just by himself in the capital.
Wagner
Group mercenaries protect President Faustin-Archange Touadéra. Credit: Leger
Kokpakpa/Reuters
There are allegedly numerous war crimes that have been committed,
killing of innocent civilians, even entire villages being erased. But I have to
say allegedly because up to now we still have to have this confirmation of this
mass murder, mass rape, and so on committed by the Wagner Group.
But I say that modus operandi worked because, at the same time,
Russia expanded its geopolitical control and in compensation for the service
received part of the diamonds and the gold coming from the very lucrative
mining industry in the area.
And then if you move this playbook in other country from Burkina
Faso from Mali and then the next one could be, for example Niger, or even Chad.
That's the area in which the Wagner plausible deniability worked until Prigozhin’s
demise.
James M. Dorsey (00:22:54):
It seems to me that the lines between private military companies
and rebel forces offering mercenary services are blurred at times two
interconnected regions where this is the case are the horn of Africa and North
Africa. Libyan rebel commander Khalifa Haftar has allowed military bases under
his control to be used for weapons shipments to the rebel Rapid Support Force (RSF)
in Sudan headed by Mohamed Hamad Dagalo, better known as Hemedti. At the same
time, the UAE Haftar and Wagner partnered with Hemedti on lucrative gold
smuggling and illicit mining operations in Sudan. What does this tell us?
Alessandro Arduino (00:23:38):
This definitely is a trend and one should not look at mercenary
groups in a vacuum. They are part of a broader network.
So, as you correctly mentioned it, while the Wagner Group was and is still deployed in Libya fighting in support of Khalifa Haftar, there is an important rising in relationship with other mercenary groups that have been fighting before as mercenaries in Libya.
Now we call the RSF with this fancy name, but we don't have to
forget the name they were called before. Yes, that is Janjaweed. Janjaweed were
operating already in Libya at the time of Moammar Gaddafi as a mercenary force.
Libya at the time was hosting different sets of mercenaries, if I recall
correct, Gaddafi was even using Serbian snipers in his forces.
James M. Dorsey (00:24:38):
Let me iterrupt me for a minute. The Janjaweed were essentially
the government-backed forces during the major crisis in Darfour.
Alessandro Arduino (00:24:50):
Correct. And the link forces forged in Libya between the Wagner Group
and RSF helped to move for example into Sudan in 2017, if I recall correct, in
support of the time president of Oma al-Bashir that used the RSF as his
personal pretorian.
And then now during the ongoing civil war there are inklings that
there is an important link between Wagner and RSF in terms of weapons smuggling
and augmenting the capability of the RSF.
Rapid Support Force in Sudan. Credit: RSF
So again, as I mentioned earlier, this mercenary modus operandi
that we saw in the last thousand years in increasing insecurity, increasing
instability is also there. Wagner have no necessity to see a peaceful
resolution of the civil war in Sudan for example.
The more the war gone, the more they can support the instability,
the more they can gain from local mining operation and, looking at Russia
long-term geopolitical objectives that are ports, for example Port Sudan is
extremely important for Russia as the case.
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For example, if we shift back to Libya, the port on the
Mediterranean Sea, and also the control is a very important intangible asset,
it thehe tap valve on migration. Libya is one of the area that is mostly used
for migrant to move into Europe and then controlling the coastal area with the
mercenary force is also a very important geopolitical leverage that Moscow can
use via the Wagner Group.
So again, let me summarize the case from Sudan to Libby and so on
is mercenaries as it happened in the past and can ignite conflict. They are
essential in creating and preserving instability. They also where they operate
promote corruption and accountability. They use already the very limited
resource of the state for their own ends.
So, it's money coming from the sale of diamonds, gold, and oil
that could have been used to develop the country, for schools, for hospitals,
for finding proper jobs. And then at the end there is also a part that is not
much researched and that is the fact that mercenaries need more mercenaries.
So, when they arrive in country they tend to absorb to poach
talent from that country, meaning police force and skilled military special
force. The irony is that most of the time they were trained with trainers from
the West and with money from the West.
So, in a nutshell, mercenaries that operate in all this areas
create a huge problem for the national state and they promote instability
James M. Dorsey (00:27:59):
And they of course attract national police and special forces
personnel and so forth because they offer more money.
Alessandro Arduino (00:28:07):
Absolutely. At the end, the golden rule for mercenaries is getting
money and getting paid on time. When I was researching for my book, Money for
Mayhem, I interviewed a lot of private military contractors, mercenaries I even
spoke with people that were related to Wagner and they were saying that among
the world of PMCs in Russia, Progozhin was well respected because he was paying
in cash and on time. If someone was getting maimed, disabled or even death,
they're killed, there was a compensation always paid to the family.
So, this is quite important, if we look from the individual, the
mercenary, then we have to ask the question, why someone wants to be a
mercenary that again, it's a thousand years old question and we have different
groups of people. You can have most of the time former special forces or former
combat veterans that have issue in finding a proper way, a proper work in the
civilian life.
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So, they perpetuate the cycle of violence. Then you have a tiny
part, but it's still a component of psychopath people who really enjoy doing
that kind of work.
And then unfortunately there is a rising trend that in my opinion
is very disconcerting, is the fact that there is a kind of modern slavery,
individuals that are forced in being mercenary or individuals who have limited
choices.
We see in Ukraine for example, a Russian prisoner given the choice
to stay in prison, where most of the time if they are not protected by the
local inmates, they end up being raped or going to die in behind bars.
And if someone choose to die in the Russian war of invasion of
Ukraine looking at the possibility of staying in prison, you can see what kind
of life they are having in the Russian prison system. So, these basically are
the trend in the cycle of violence and the cycle of recruitment.
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And we don't have to forget when conflict are going to end.
Ukraine will end sometime in the future. You are going to have thousands of young soldiers that have grown
up, they're basically auto life fighting a war and they are going to be the
preferred recruit for the next cycle of new mercenaries.
And it's something that we really need to look at right now. For
example, who were the first to get recruited by Wagner, the were veterans from
the church and war before Wagner Group. There was other outfits that were
fighting a kind of mercenary war for Mother Russia and the recruit were so-called
Afghanis, the ones who were so scarred by the experience in Afghanistan that
they choose to go on in this kind of line of work.
James M. Dorsey (00:31:17):
I want to come back to something that you said earlier about Libya
and ask you to expand. You said Libya was different from the other basically
from the playbook of Wagner in Syria and elsewhere in Africa because Libya was
a situation in which in which
mercenaries were pitted against mercenaries. Can you elaborate on that?
Alessandro Arduino (00:31:44):
Yes. And that Libya definitely for Wagner contractors like Ukraine
is not the place of their choice of operation. If you look at the age group in
Africa for example, most of the Wagner contractors are above 30 years old,
meaning they are former special forces coming from GRU (military intelligence)
and so on and they find a very lucrative way to employ their skill. Africa is
the perfect environment for the rise.
The return of mercenaries means fragile states, a lot of natural
resources prone for grabbing, chance to making good money for this individual.
And at the same time the conflict are low-level conflict, friction is very
limited.
Libya is not the case. It's a war. And in one side you have the
Wagner Group improving augmenting the capability of Kaar army and on the other
side the support of Turkey supporting the GNA.
James M. Dorsey (00:32:53):
The GNA being the internationally recognized government of Libya.
Alessandro Arduino (00:32:57):
Correct. And for the first time in the modern era you have two
lines of mercenaries fighting, one against the other. Then it was very common
in Europe during the medieval time but also in other areas of the world. We
don't have to forget that in Europe during the time of Westphalia, we start to
think that mercenaries is evil is a bad thing while dying for your flag and not
dying for the coin is the right thing to do.
But in other parts of the world, mercenaries never disappeared In
Africa. We are talking about post-colonial wars with executive outcomes of sand
lines. Then we can move to other areas, like China, where in 1911 you had
warlords that were employing mercenaries coming from all over the world. And
this is a trend.
So, as we're seeing right now, there was United Nations, I think a
publication not long ago was saying that the biggest impediment in Libya in
finding a solution between the two warring parties is the role of mercenaries.
And they advised both parties to get rid of mercenaries. As I said before,
mercenaries preserve their status, their income with instability. If there is
peace, they are out of the job.
So, basically if they win the battle, they get themselves out of a
job. If they lose the battle, they die or they end up in prison. So, they need
to preserve constantly the state of unaccountability and instability and that's
the case of Libya.
James M. Dorsey (00:34:32):
Syria is important in this discussion not just because of the role
of Wagner but also because it produced the world's first jihadist private
military company, Malhama Tactical or what some call Islam's Blackwater. Tell
us more about Malhama Tactical, its impact, commercial viability, and whether
the fact that Uyghur militants play an important role in the company is
significant.
Alessandro Arduino (00:35:00):
Yeah, the case of Malhama Tactical is quite interesting. When I
was researching the overall outfit of mercenaries because one distinct
character of mercenaries all over is the fact that they are looking at the coin,
at getting money at the end of the mountain and they were not driven by
ideology.
Malhama Tactical members. Credit: Instagram via Malhama Tactical
And this case it's different because Malhama Tactical was and is
still now in very limited capability. And Al-Qaeda affiliated private military
outfit as they called themself that was working in Syria, mainly operating in
the Syrian city of Iblid for Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham, better known as HTS, it's
pro alqaeda terrorist group.
They according to their website, leveled themselves as a private
military company, meaning they were offering a kind of service in training guys
in Syria to fight and Russian forces. And basically, their motto was to improve
the combat capability but not to forge the suicide fighter.
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And in this respect, it was quite strange because there is this
link about private military and ideology and at the same time this link was the
biggest problem for them because several other militant organizations in the
area affiliated to Al-Qaeda called them as not a rightful Muslim force because
they were doing it for money and then it was a perversion of Islam.
And in this respect, there has been a lot of discussion online on
the real effectiveness role of Malhama Tactical. And then at the end,
especially when the leader and the founder was killed during the Russian
bombardment, with the new leader, the group moved to a normal, let's say
jihadist outfit without claiming to be the Blackwater of jihad.
James M. Dorsey (00:37:32):
We find a similar link between ideology and commerce, not only in Malhama
Tactical but at least in some of the Turkish companies like Sadat which appear
to be inspired by Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s mix of religion and
Turkish nationalism. Is that a correct assessment?
Alessandro Arduino (00:37:55):
Yeah, that's correct. Again, you don't need much of intelligence
on any other thing. You just go on the website of Sadat Defense Group, the
company, and they mentioned on their website that they are a defense security
company that is providing training and military training for all the Muslim
countries.
Adnan Tanrıverdi, founder of SADAT, meets Libyan military
officials.
So, it worked very well with the vision of the Turkish president
Erdogan of neo-Ottomanism. So, we have a company that have the romantic view of
the Ottoman Empire and we don't have to forget that army, the Ottoman army from
the 15th century to the 17th century was extremely skillful in using and
deploying mercenaries.
Most of the time people think about the Janissaries but is not the
case. Janissaries were not mercenaries, they were inside the chain of command
of the Ottoman army. So, it's like saying that Wagner is a private company,
Wagner is not registered, it is not a private company.
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But then, at the time, the Ottoman army was using specialized
mercenaries for different tasks. If I recall correctly, for example, there were
some sort of combat engineers that they were following the Ottoman Army,
building bridges and roads and then you have the Ottoman artillery that was
basically built by Hungarians or by Italians.
That was the kind of mercenary that they were using. So, we can
see now Turkish private military companies are a new arrival, a new kid on the
block in terms of devolution of PMCs and Sadat is spearheading this evolution.
It was founded in 2016 I think by former retired Brigadier General
Adnan Tanriverdi. who was a security advisor of President Erdogan. And then you
can see a link now with Prigozhin and Utkin be very near to Putin until it
wasn't.
And with a strong man in Turkey being near to this new private
military company, then there is a lot of discussion going on now, especially
from researchers from the UAE and Israel pointing the finger at Sadat as the
link in between the use of Syrian mercenary in areas from Nagorno Carrabba to
Libya.
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But we have to say allegedly because Sadat strongly denied this
fact. But we can see that there is an evolution and we are very far now from
the path traced by the United States in economic terms and its ideology, its policy and its authoritarian
state that have closed link with this tool of geopolitical expansion. But at
the same time of plausible deniability.
So, if we look specifically at Turkey is something that is really
important to look at the future trend. But for example, Turkish police in terms
of international trading is extremely well-known and well respected. They are
in Somalia now in Mogadishu airport. They have been advising during the FIFA
World Cup in Qatar and so on.
But then now you have this line, the gray area getting more broad
if you are going to have the service as a private security, the service as a
military augmenting or at the end having involvement with mercenary outfits.
One thing that is important to say is that the evolution, for example Sadat,
it's a tool of Turkish foreign policy that is neither pro-Ukrainian, neither
pro-Russian, is essentially Turkish.
James M. Dorsey (00:42:01):
Contrary to Wagner, Sadat isn't really a household name. How
important is Sadat on the international stage compared to for example, the
successor company to Blackwater or Wagner itself?
Alessandro Arduino (00:42:22):
I think it's important to chart the rise of private military
companies that have an ideological background, a very strong ideological
background and essentially is important because it's still operating in several
area of the world, hot area flashpoints and being able to fly below the radar.
The fact that there is not much faster talk about Turkish private
military company is quite important because US private military company become
famous or infamous after the accident, after the killing. The tragedy of Noursi
Square by Blackwater, Wagner again become famous long after it started to
operate because of this atrocity.
But more important it become the flavor of the month after Mr. Prigozhin’s
U-turn against Putin. And that was quite surprising for me, not that he did
that because that's the way 4,000-year mercenaries have been renegotiating
their pay when they are in arms. When you are defending the Roman empire and
the mercenary of the gate, that's the time when the mercenary look at the
emperor and just say, that's time to renegotiate our pay.
(00:43:41):
And in my opinion, what Prigozhin indeed is was basically a
renegotiation of what he could gain after that. Of course, he didn't play the
end properly and we saw that when it happened to his kind of aborted vertical
landing or I don't know how you want to call it, what it happened to his
airplane in mid-flight, but even so, we have to see one thing. Everyone was
surprised at the time and that shocked me because everyone was surprised and
why I say so because if we look at history 4,000 years, very successful
mercenary groups have only one option becoming the king or basically getting
killed by the king. And I think for the history of Prigozhin, we already know
the answer.
James M. Dorsey (00:44:26):
Just for the benefit of our listeners and the viewers, Prigozhin,
the head and the founder of Wagner,
essentially turned on Vladimir Putin, marched on Moscow, and that led to Wagner
coming under the control full official control of the Russian government
and ultimately to the death of Prigozhin and his number two in a plane crash on
route from Moscow to St. Petersburg. Just so that everybody knows what we're
talking about here.
Coming back to something else that you said earlier, Iraq was not
just the fulcrum for American private military companies but also for the
venturing abroad of Chinese entities seeking to secure Chinese assets. Talk to
us about the significance of overseas operations of Chinese private military
companies where and how they operate and how they compare to their US
counterparts.
Alessandro Arduino (00:45:34):
Yes, even before the start of President Xi’s, flagship foreign
policy initiative, the Belt and Road, Chinese private security companies
started to venture abroad protecting oil fields in Iraq at the time as it
happened. Now, most of this companies have a security manager meaning people
that are in between the Chinese engineers, the Chinese workers, the Chinese
infrastructure and local armored militia contractors or international armored
PMCs that work for China. At the time, for example of Iraq, Chinese entiies
were located in safer areas in the south and they were protected by Western
forces mostly controlled by Control Risk Group from the United Kingdom.. The
situation has evolved. Chinese private security are augmenting their
capabilities but still there is quite a mismatch in what they are think they're
capable of and what they can deliver. If we look at the market structure in
China, private security is extremely well regulated since 1993.
(00:46:46):
The law has been updated in 2009 and there is going probably in
few months to be a new law that detaisl every very little issue that the
private security can encounter is very difficult or a private security in China
to be an armored, there isn't a necessity. And also when moving outside China,
most of the time they are unarmed and they contract locally armored forces and
personnel. I say mostly because there are some Chinese private security companies
that offer armored service in international water against pirate and against
threats in chain of communication.
And we can see now with the issue of the Houthi threatening chain
of communication near the strait of Bal al Mandab. This is a current quite big
issue that has been discussed in China, but getting back to the Belt and Road Initiative,
China still abides by the decades-old principle of non-interference, meaning if
a crisis up at an international level, China is not willing and, in some
respects, not able to send the People’s Liberation Army to protect its
interest.
(00:47:55):
Chinese People’s Liberation Army Navy has been increasingly
getting better in blue water operations very far from the land. So, we can see
when the Muammar Gadaffi regime collapsed in Libya, they were able to evacuate
more than 30,000 Chinese workers.
sBut then again we are not seeing PLA boots on the ground. That's
the case. There is a vacuum and this vacuum is increasingly filled by Chinese
private security companies. So, these companies are protecting Chinese
investments and Chinese personnel against criminal violence, terrorism or act such
as theft against Chinese property all
over.
But then there is a rise and as you, James, mentioned correctly in
several areas, especially in Pakistan, if we look at Balochistan, China
invested in that area, US$63 billion CPEC, the China Pakistan Economic cCorridor
and there is an increase of terrorist violence against Chinese workers because
China, Beijing is perceived as an ally of Islamabad and then the insurgents want
to punish China for supporting the Punjabis in their area.
(00:49:13):
Having said that, we don't have also to forget that since the US
withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021, now China become the enemy number one for
the Islamic State in Khorasan. And then again there is this fear of increasing
security moving from Afghanistan to Pakistan to all central Asia and that's
where China is looking at an increase more capable role for its own private
security companies.
And again, Chinese private security companies at home are from
7,000 to 10,000 outfits registered and working in mainland China. And if you
move this huge number to the one operating with good capabilities outside
China, we are talking about 20 and no more companies that are very professional
and operating outside China.
There has been some discussion about Chinese private security, but
most of the time this discussion looks at China trying to picture Chinese PSC
(private security companies) as the Blackwater or now as the Wagner group.
(00:50:21):
So, in my personal opinion, Chinese private security companies are
not Blackwater and not the Wagner group. Definitely, both groups tried to work
with the Chinese. Eric Prince, the founder of Blackwater, even opened shop in
Hong Kong. The company is called FSG Frontier Service Group and the business
partner of Mr. Prince is Citi group is one of China state oldest economic
financial juggernauts.
And then if you have that as a partner you know very well with who
you are working with. And then at the same time during the Trump administration
when there was an increase of friction between China and the United States,
Chinese private security companies and most important their client, the state
owned enterprises, they were feeling insecure in contracting Western private
security or private military companies.
A Chinese private military practicing. Credit: Carnegie
Endowment for International Peace
And then it was the time for several Russian companies, private security and even quasi PMC, so
meaning Russian PMC registered outside Russia, to pitch their service to the
Chinese because at the time there was this perception that the Belt and Road
security is a huge market.
(00:51:38):
There is a lot of money to be made. It was not the case but there
is still some idea. So basically to summarize the Russian offer, there are three
points.
Rirst point, they are not going to tell SOEs, state-owned
enterprises, secrets to the west. The second point is that it works extremely
well in the Chinese market and they say they are efficient but they are very
economical in respect to their western counterparts And the last one is the
fact that they underline experience contractors with better capabilities,
meaning you can tell them where to go and they are going there shooting.
There is something that's still in the masculinity of the Chinese
private security sector worked very well and it worked for Blackwater too. We
don't have to forget that the last time the Chinese fought a war was in 1979,
if I am correct, against Vietnam. So, it's been really long time since there
was a conflict and there are basically no veterans in the army.
So, most of the PSC are composed by former PLA people, Liberation Army,
special forces soldiers, policemen or even people from army police, the PAP,
but not many of them have seen real combat. So, this masculinity coming out of
Blackwater or even the Wagner Group had some echo in Beijing.
James M. Dorsey (00:53:04):
If I may, I want to switch gears for a moment. Technology is
changing the landscape of mercenaries and private military companies,
particularly with the emergence of mercenaries in the cyberspace. Beyond the
threat this poses to a country's critical infrastructure, does this also
elevate the significance of information wars alongside wars fought on the
battlefield?
Alessandro Arduino (00:53:32):
When I was working on my book, the role of cybersecurity and drones
were my big question about what next, what is the future of mercenaries? And
definitely, technology is already playing, not is going to play. It's already
right now playing a very important role.
There is a huge problem in cyber mercenaries defining who is a
cyber mercenary up to now, as I mentioned earlier, since 1949, from a legal
standpoint it's already very difficult to point the finger at someone who is a
mercenary that mostly the law says is a foreign national that is taking part of
a conflict, getting paid for that but is not part of one of the army that is
waging war.
Then the problem is that if we go to the cyber, to the cyberspace,
it's very easy for a cyber mercenary to clock themself just saying that legally
it's a software company,a software security company, or even just disappear
under alias in the dark web.
(00:54:46):
So, the first and foremost problem in looking at cyber mercenaries
is the definition is something that in the book I've been trying to address
looking at the United Nation work group on mercenaries that is currently
working on the issue of cyber mercenaries.
But why cyber mercenaries are very important because hacking as a
service is a very fluid area in a very poorly regulated at international level
industry but is very profitable. So, we have all the component of a mercenary
ward, meaning there is a lot of money to be made, there is not much of
accountability, is not easy to get caught by the police .and even if they get
you is difficult to get indicted. So, it is a perfect storm just waiting to be unleashed.
There are issues now addressing this fact. For example, if you look at Project
Maven in the UAE, there was some former intelligence officers specialized in AI
who were contracted.
(00:55:56):
So, the question is they were cyber mercenaries or not, or if you
look at the use of spyware and malware, malware for compaies that sell this
service to states and legitimate police forces, but when this software, this
app moves into the gray zone and then is received by criminal organizations or
is used and abusest against civilians, against journalists and so on, that's
the case to start to ask question if we consider this company cyber mercenaies
or not. And as I mentioned it before, is a perfect storm. All the component of
boots on the ground mercenaries is already there and we are just waiting to see
what's the worst coming out from this.
James M. Dorsey (00:56:47):
You also talk in your book about the booming emergence of drone
mercenaries and competition between China and Turkey and possibly Iran for
dominance in the global market for combat drones. What do you mean by drone
missionaries and how is this competition shaping up?
Alessandro Arduino (00:57:08):
Yeah, the competition for the market share is between China and
Turkey for market share or armored UAV unmanned aerial vehicles or better known
as combat drones. In this respect, I was attempting in my book Money for Mayhem
to look at the what next.
So, in my personal opinion, as we have mercenaries that have
hacking capability, mercenaries that have information and disinformation
capabilities, the next logical step is to have mercenary groups that have
combat drone for underwater drones or terrestrial drones, meaning that you can
have a military force on the ground, but also that a country, a warlord, a
dictator can rent an air force for hire and that's the next logical step.
But up to now, normally when people think about the market for
combat drone, what comes to mind are the US Reapers and this kind of very high
level, very expensive and sophisticated drones, but in reality the fight to
reach the top of the sales worldwide for
this kind of drone is between China and Turkey.
(00:58:30):
Why essentially, as I just mentioned, US has probably the best
drone on the market, but is the kind of Rolls Royce of the drone, meaning it's
expensive and is not for everybody. US is not willing to sell drones to a lot
of countries, even countries that are all allowed to buy it, while China and
Turkey don't have this kind of call. They sell drone to a lot of different
countries.
China started first with economically affordable drones that can
deliver and, for example, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia acquired an entire drone
production line, but then after the 44 days war in Nagorno Carrabba with
basically the Turkish drone TB 42, showcasing how in matter of weeks they can
defeat an entire line of armor, main battle tanks and so on. Turkish drones became
the darling of the combat drones and
even President Erdogan was used to say that every time he moved to a foreign
land, the first thing they ask him is, can I buy your Turkish drone?
Bayraktar TB2 UCAV. Credit: Yulii Zozulia/
Ukrinform/Future Publishing via Getty Images
(00:59:49):
So, this trend is ongoing. Turkey is having an upper hand in
selling drones, but then as you said before, James, Iran is getting into the
fray, supplying allegedly drones to Russia. And this underlying is a trend in
terms of quality versus quantity.
lranian drones are very low level dronesccompared to the American
one or even with the Chinese Chengdu or the Byraktar yar, but are easy to
assign, are cheap, they get the work done and they can overwhelm as
unfortunately we saw in Ukraine aerial defense.
So. they are economically efficient and I recall there was an
economic paper by a scholar from the Royal United Services Institute that he
mentioned that there was no surprise in seeing arms transfer between Iran and
Russia, but the surprise is the direction of the vector that is from Tehran
going to Moscow, what nobody was looking at.
So, we are seeing that this kind of situation when quantity over
quality is getting better in the world of arms, we are going also to witness a
rise of mercenaries that are going to have better disinformation and propaganda
capabilities, better armament in term of drones because drones are getting
vehicles and they're getting cheaper.
James M. Dorsey (01:01:21):
Alex, time is not our friend even. This has been a fascinating
conversation. I learned a lot and I hope so has our audience.
Thank you for joining me on the show and thanks to our listeners
and viewers, please share any comments or questions you may have in the comment
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Thank you for having me.
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