tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post3822253935376319501..comments2023-09-02T19:33:30.329+08:00Comments on The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccer: Soccer Fans Play Key Role in Egyptian ProtestsThe Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-61834698907303884782011-02-20T04:25:29.470+08:002011-02-20T04:25:29.470+08:00Steve, the link in your comment does not work. Can...Steve, the link in your comment does not work. Can you send a correct link? ThanksThe Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-3489639245672198932011-02-20T04:08:21.585+08:002011-02-20T04:08:21.585+08:00Coming out this summer: World Cup Soccer in the Mi...Coming out this summer: World Cup Soccer in the Middle East will blow your mind.<br /><br />www.MiddleEastSoccerBook.comSoccer1Guruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01528058893113449650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-24580062404515229352011-02-09T22:20:24.958+08:002011-02-09T22:20:24.958+08:00Thanks for the kind words. Hope you continue to en...Thanks for the kind words. Hope you continue to enjoyThe Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-78447136814903372822011-02-09T17:43:32.712+08:002011-02-09T17:43:32.712+08:00Great topic.
Thanks so much for your post. I found...Great topic.<br />Thanks so much for your post. I found it so interesting.<br />Thanks again. <a href="http://www.wsob.com/" rel="nofollow">online free play</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592491073556752504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-67352838701406430982011-02-09T17:42:00.958+08:002011-02-09T17:42:00.958+08:00I love your post. It's very informative , than...I love your post. It's very informative , thanks a lot.<a href="http://www.wsob.com/" rel="nofollow">online free play</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592491073556752504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-56827192973562321602011-02-01T20:12:01.203+08:002011-02-01T20:12:01.203+08:00In this free soccer coaching manual, you will see ...In this free soccer coaching manual, you will see a number of practice <a href="http://www.coaching-youth-soccer-for-success.com/free-soccer-drills.html" rel="nofollow">soccer drills</a> plans and free soccer drills that help to teach kids how to play soccer, such as, Ball control,Passing & receiving,Kicking,Defending,Attacking etc.Trustedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14949209493215545395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-80364575930982189182011-02-01T20:11:29.480+08:002011-02-01T20:11:29.480+08:00Feeling comfortable on the ball and having the abi...Feeling comfortable on the ball and having the ability to control the ball. These drills help make it second <a href="http://www.coaching-youth-soccer-for-success.com/free-soccer-drills.html" rel="nofollow">soccer drills</a> nature for players.Trustedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14949209493215545395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-74821330593152427452011-01-30T12:07:08.507+08:002011-01-30T12:07:08.507+08:00Sean, thank you for this. The links go to the hear...Sean, thank you for this. The links go to the heart of what I believe was true until the current wave of protests and will only be clear over time to what degree it has changed. And that is that in the Middle East with its authoritarian regimes that choke off all public space, the mosque and the soccer pitch were the only two institutions capable of providing alternative public space. My guess is that there will be a some degree of expanded public space, at least in some countries like Egypt, as a result of the protests. An actual material improvement of people's lives is likely to take much longer and the impact once that sinks in remains to be seen. Whichever way it goes, my guess is that soccer will remain a release valve. Thanks again.The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-61456825755735136112011-01-30T11:52:27.911+08:002011-01-30T11:52:27.911+08:00James,
See also this piece about Geddo: http://w...James,<br /><br />See also this piece about Geddo: http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/opinion/geddo-and-messianic-football<br /><br />And Aboutreika:<br /><br />http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/30/608715<br /><br /><br />-- SeanSean Jacobshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05526700662981701483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-64083886456348799382011-01-28T06:54:33.663+08:002011-01-28T06:54:33.663+08:00referee51:
I was not ignoring them. I was in fact...referee51:<br /><br />I was not ignoring them. I was in fact going to recommend we take them seriously, and do what that requires – encourage expertise in our foreign affairs that has to deal with the region, not denigrate it; start to reevaluate our policies towards Israel that reflect these harsher realities; take more realistic attitudes towards Hamas, and Hizbollah, and stop calling them names and seeking to isolate them and start a genuine dialogue of principles and interests with them; …want more?The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-11557713541809036562011-01-28T06:53:36.994+08:002011-01-28T06:53:36.994+08:00All true. Fact of the matter is however that they ...All true. Fact of the matter is however that they are force that cannot be ignored, not least as a result of Western policies that allowed Mubarak to become increasingly authoritarian.The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-26576398453650165862011-01-28T06:19:03.243+08:002011-01-28T06:19:03.243+08:00Referee51:
Oh yes, the US relationship with the E...Referee51:<br /><br />Oh yes, the US relationship with the Egyptian Brotherhood goes way back – a Brotherhood leader was wined and dined (?) at the White House in 1953 by Eisenhauer as part of an effort to organize various opposition elements against Abdul Nasser (the Brotherhood then tried to assassinate him at least 3 times). Sadat gave them refuge and encouragement to a degree as an effort to balance the Nasserite Arab Socialists who deeply opposed Sadats economic reforms, liberalizations, de-statization, and what he called Infetah – the Open Door. Of course, Sadat crossed the line and embraced Begin, and had to die, Sinai or no Sinai.The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-43985555732452740492011-01-28T05:45:52.472+08:002011-01-28T05:45:52.472+08:00Referee51 responds:
And the distinction of how th...Referee51 responds:<br /><br />And the distinction of how the revolt started to how it turns out is essential. As the liberals and students and doctors and lawyers go back to life and work, it will be the organized Brotherhood that offers a national candidate and the broad local presence to win a national election.<br />Just reality. And why the US so often voted in favor of stability despite having to ally with regimes who had to use repression as a tool of statehood.The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-17334541588068037352011-01-28T05:44:53.568+08:002011-01-28T05:44:53.568+08:00I agree about the fear. However in Egypt things be...I agree about the fear. However in Egypt things began by groups outside of political frameworks and the Brotherhood and others are jumping on the bandwagon. The mosque was the rallying and organizing point in Iran and others had no choice but to jump on the bandwagon.The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-72071175648823525422011-01-28T05:44:23.588+08:002011-01-28T05:44:23.588+08:00Referee51 requested posting of this comment:
The...Referee51 requested posting of this comment:<br /><br /><br />The big fear in Egypt is a repeat of the Iran events of 78/79/80, when what started similarly as a mass and widely popular uprising of merchants, students, and all sorts of other groups, but gradually the better organized and motivated Islamists took over the revolution and once in power ruthlessly have repressed all the other groups since, imposing a new form of dictatorship, and one much less tolerant of diversity and enforcing strict social and religious orthodoxy.<br /><br />One man, One vote, One time. As the Brotherhood is the most widely organized and motivated group in Egypt by a wide margin, it is not surprising to hear US experts in think tanks worry about a repeat of Iran 79. Losing Lebanon to Hizbollah and Iran is bad enough. Losing Egypt to the Muslim Brotherhood would be catastrophic (not for USA so much, but for Israel). <br /><br />The hard right line in Israel will react by saying “see, we told you so, the Arabs now reveal their true political character (Islamist). Darn good thing we were not persuaded to withdraw from Judea and Samaria, and lets build that wall even higher.”The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-34589387484665866492011-01-27T23:06:41.390+08:002011-01-27T23:06:41.390+08:00Steve, indeed, I agree. The only caveat that I wou...Steve, indeed, I agree. The only caveat that I would make is that the Italian ultras, whatever one thinks of them, operate in an open, pluralistic society. In authoritarian Egypt as elsewhere in the Middle East, soccer is often the only subterfuge or release valve for any kind of critical expression.The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08780576145703699280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1593189288898730807.post-65024607094395012232011-01-27T22:58:50.196+08:002011-01-27T22:58:50.196+08:00"Established in 2007, the ultras -- modelled ..."Established in 2007, the ultras -- modelled on Italy’s autonomous, often violent fan clubs..."<br /><br />James, it is unfortunate that this negative element of Italian football has been embraced in Egypt. Italian ultras have strange relationships with some players and club officials. <br /><br />In 2004, you may recall during a Roman derby that one ultra chief came on to the pitch. He convinced AS Roma captain and icon, Francesco Totti, to stop a game due to an alleged death outside of the stadium caused by the police. The situation was a hoax, but spoke volumes about the power of the Roman ultras in this particular case.<br /><br />Source: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/feature-soccer-rome.htmlSteve Amoiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06882162218773048612noreply@blogger.com